The debate on the Period in which Lord Rama Lived

I happened to read the article written by Dr. Satya Pal Singh, Commissioner of Police, Nagpur in the Rediff.com posted on 14th April 2008 on “Proving the historicity of Ram”. ( http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/apr/14guest.htm )

At the outset the article written by him is completely biased and is neither scientific nor rational. It is not understood as to how a senior IPS officer, has devoted so much of time in writing this article, inspite of his pressing duties as a Commissioner of Police of a big city like Nagpur. If his approach is biased like this then what will be the fate of the inquiries that are being dealt by him is a big question. Definitely all the cases dealt by him must not have had a fair dealing.

No one in this country ,irrespective of religion, caste or creed have ever questioned the existence of Lord Ram. At times due to some compulsions some leaders would have challenged. It is difficult to prove the events that have been narrated in the Epics. At the same time, there is every likelihood of the events being exaggerated. Once in a debate between Arignar Anna and Professor R.P.Sethu Pillai, the former had questioned about certain remarks made by Kambar in the Kamba Ramayanam. For this, Prof. Sethu Pillai had politely replied that while narrating it in a poetic or literary form, some imagination has been made and that should not be taken for challenging the very existence of the Characters mentioned in the work. In the same way the message narrated in the Great epics must be taken and instead trying to justify the Historicity of Ram on the basis of what has been mentioned in the Epics will not work out to be correct.

Dr Satya Pal Singh has tried hard to prove that Lord Ram lived sometime between 18,149,108 and 869,108 years ago. For this he is also blaming the Western historians and Anthropologists for their biased approach. It is realy unimaginable that Lord Ram lived such long back. Even for argument sake if we accept that he lived during that period, how is it that no other evidence is available. After the happenings of Ramayan between 18,149,108 and 869,108 and the Mahabarath sometime later, as per Dr. Satya Pal Singh, no other incidents have taken place for so many tens of thousands of years till the last 5000BC, which have not been recorded at all. Does he mean that no important events took place in the intervening period.

It is nothing but making fools of ourselves. It is not understood why a section of the people, are not accepting the reality. The people who are floating this theory want to suppress the facts that the Aryans had invaded India from the Central Asia and had overrun the Indus Valley Civilisation. As the existing Civilisation was much superior, they have started to float the theories that Lord Ram lived long back. If we are to accept the theory floated by Dr. Satya Pal Singh then the Geography of the Indian Sub-continent itself has to be changed. He himself accepts due to the long lapse of time there could be so many changes. Definitely the Geographical/Geological features would not have been the same as it is now or a few thousand years ago. It would have been drastically different lakhs of years ago. After the recent Tsunami in 2004, the coastline is said to have changed. There are ample proof that parts of Poompuhar and Mahabalipuram have been submerged in the sea a few hundred years ago. The Adams Bridge or the Ramar Sethu is just a few hundred kilometers from the Poompuhar coast. When Poompuhar has been subjected to sea incursions, we cannot say what all would have happened to the Adams Bridge or the Ramar Sethu over the years. So if we accept the hypotheses of Dr. Satya Pal Singh, then to say that Lord Ram was born at the present Ayodhya and he constructed the Adams Bridge or the Ramar Sethu, is not at all acceptable.

It is a fact that till the First Millennium BC, the languages in the Indian Sub-continent were not being written. In a bid to usurp the creativity of the Indus Valley Civilisation, such theories are being floated, time and again.The language/s spoken by the people of the Indus Valley Civilisation had a script but has nothing to do with the Aryans. As the original occupants were conquered/driven away, they had lost touch of their language and the place. It has been scientifically proved that Brahui - the language spoken in the present Pakistan is the remnant of the Indus Valley Civilisation and is a Dravidian Language. Further, the Aryans as per their Vedas were the worshippers of the Nature and it only after they had come to India they have adopted worship of the Idols and images. In the Indus Valley, Idols and Image worshipping has been reported. Another factor is that the dead were being burried as per the customs of the Indus Valley Civilisation. Whereas the Aryans burn their dead. Thus these facts itself is sufficient to prove that it was not an Aryan Civilisation. M/s. Jha and Rajaram tried hard to prove that it is an Aryan Civilisation by fabricating but have been exposed. Like that Dr. Satya Pal Singh wants to claim what is not a fact. Luckily most parts of the Indus Valley Civilisation are now in Pakistan, otherwise, it would have seen the same fate of the Babri Masjid and people like Dr. Satya Pal Singh may later say that no such Civilisation was there at all.

It is a fact that India has been invaded by the Muslims, Huns, Mughals and the Britishers . None have denied it. Similarly it is also a fact that the Aryans are originaly from the Central Asia, have come down and settled in India. They are the first amongst the outsiders to come to India.

Lord Rama had set an example as to how as a Human being one should live and as to how a King should rule. Let us follow it. But at the same time let us accept the fact that the Ramayan and Mahabarath took place between 1500 BC and 500 BC. As true Indians let us propogate the ideals taught by the Great mortals and not make them as a mark of controversy.

When it come to reservation Tamilnadu loves Hindi speaking OBCs compared to Tamil speaking forward castes.

The Tamil (or Telugu) political parties continue say Paarpaans, paarppaiyans, etc. The Paarppaans are Tamils. Even without Paappaans things are going on Uthamapuram, Southern districts and also 2-tumbler system (also sponsored by the Telugu parties).

The Bihari workers working in Tamilnadu are NOT Tamils.

The arrogant Hindi speaking airports staff in Chennai airport are not Tamils.

Also several Urdu and Hindi speaking castes in Tamilnadu reserved lists DONT speak Tamil.

From this it is obvious reservation movement is plan to destroy Tamil and replace with Hindi speakers.

Karunanidhi also has made Urdu language compulsory in muslim schools in Tamilnadu. So they really are liking Urdu and Hindi compared to Tamil language.

Many people who support elimination of Tamils with these Hindi and Telugu speakers are obviously non-Tamils in TN reserved category.

Will someone revive the Chandmal Chopra’s Calcuttah Quran(http://www.bharatvani.org/books/tcqp/) petition? The Calcuttah Quran petition of 29 March 1985 stating that publication of the Quran attracts Sections 153A and 295A of the I.P.C. because it incites violence, disturbs public tranquility, promotes, on ground of religion, feelings of enmity, hatred and ill-will between different religious communities, and insults other religions or religious beliefs of other communities in India. Let’s see the bravery of these super learned!

Whether anybody goes to the middle of the sea to offer worship or not is secondary. We worship the Sun god but we don’t go to the Sun. What is held to be sacred by a large number of people of this country must remain sacred and no sacrilege must be allowed by rupturing Ramar Sethu. This court cannot decide what is sacred. It is for the people of this country to decide what is sacred.”

He pointed out that during the execution of the Delhi metro rail project, an objection was raised to the elevated structure near the Qutb Minar on the ground that vibrations during train movement would affect a tomb. Subsequently, the project was revised as an underground system involving an additional cost of Rs. 558 crore. “But this government will not care for millions of Hindus and wants to break Ramar Sethu.”

He also pointed out that a Tamil Nadu government advertisement on trains said: “The waters here [Rameswaram island] still carry the blessings of Lord Rama’s lotus feet because this is where the monkey army crossed over to Lanka to rescue Sita.”

The court must harmonise religious faith and economic development by directing the government to carry out the project through an alternative alignment without touching Ramar Sethu; otherwise, it should be scrapped.

Afterall what can we expect from them. They are doing as they have been instructed!! I am pretty sure that they are aware of the fact that the entire world will laugh at them on such questions. Still they chose to ask.

The height is they also asked as to whether a worship place can be 25KM long.

This just proves that they want to screw up.

I am reopening this blog just to discuss some of the “actions” happening at Supreme Court. Just a week ago the Chief Justice Balakrishnan questioned whehter people worship at Rama Sethu.

Yesterday, when Parasaran & Soli Sorabje were arguing that Rama Sethu is considered sacred by majority of Hindus as it is built by none other than Sri Rama, bench intervened and asked the following question.

“Cow is considered as sacred and worshipped by Hindus. So do you want ban on cow slaughter?”

If these were the words from the opposition then it is fine. But, these questions were from judges.

Still, do we hope the judgement will be impartial ???

As the comments from fellow bloggers are stooping to low level & bringing hatered with in each other, I am closing this blog. I deleted all the comments which were posted this month.

Thanks for your participation.

Regds
Anand VG

This Kancha Ilaiah is a Dalit ’scholar’ who specialises in writing sheer anti-Hindu nonsense. His articles used to appear frequently in ‘The Hindu’ (where else?) until even that newspaper found it embarassing to do so.